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Comments on: Who understands how Detroit needs to change? http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/ Rantings and photos of Metro Detroit in a post-industrial era. Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:12:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: admin http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-186 admin Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:56:29 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-186 That's great to hear Todd. Thanks! That’s great to hear Todd. Thanks!

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By: Todd Scott http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-185 Todd Scott Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:51:12 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-185 Note that the city of Detroit is making decent progress towards adding bike lanes starting this construction season. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_Detroit Note that the city of Detroit is making decent progress towards adding bike lanes starting this construction season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_Detroit

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By: admin http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-178 admin Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:50:48 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-178 Jim, I agree with much of your assessment of the area. I do think, however, that the city may have to shrink the areas that it services in order to contain costs. The city of Denver has almost as much area, and less people than Detroit. So the argument that Detroit is too big, rings a bit hollow. I think the difference is how the areas are utilized in each city. A large portion of Denver is the airport, and the surrounding, often empty land. In Detroit the empty land is spread out in a haphazard fashion that makes many services too expensive to maintain. I am in complete agreement with the amount of frustration, lack of true leadership, and a dysfunctional political scene (hopefully it's changing). And the city will be different, no doubt...it has to be, there is no other choice. A new vision is indeed needed. Petr, there's no doubt that the very people Detroit needs are moving to places like Chicago, Seattle, D.C., etc, for the very reasons you mention. Unfortunately, it's hard to have those great amenities with a declining population. I guess the the big challenge is how to both, bring the people in, and build the amenities and infrastructure almost simultaneously. It may not be possible, so Detroit, and the region will have to figure out new ways to attract the people it needs. Jim, I agree with much of your assessment of the area. I do think, however, that the city may have to shrink the areas that it services in order to contain costs. The city of Denver has almost as much area, and less people than Detroit. So the argument that Detroit is too big, rings a bit hollow. I think the difference is how the areas are utilized in each city. A large portion of Denver is the airport, and the surrounding, often empty land.

In Detroit the empty land is spread out in a haphazard fashion that makes many services too expensive to maintain.

I am in complete agreement with the amount of frustration, lack of true leadership, and a dysfunctional political scene (hopefully it’s changing). And the city will be different, no doubt…it has to be, there is no other choice. A new vision is indeed needed.

Petr, there’s no doubt that the very people Detroit needs are moving to places like Chicago, Seattle, D.C., etc, for the very reasons you mention. Unfortunately, it’s hard to have those great amenities with a declining population. I guess the the big challenge is how to both, bring the people in, and build the amenities and infrastructure almost simultaneously. It may not be possible, so Detroit, and the region will have to figure out new ways to attract the people it needs.

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By: Petr http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-177 Petr Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:00:27 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-177 It seems to me that the one thing that might be making young(er) people stay is moving back to pre-suburbs times, to pre-whiteflight situation. Once people can walk downtown Detroit and have shops, doctors, restaurants, gyms, theatres, schools and playgrounds at a walking (cycling :)) distance, they will want to stay. Hopefully. It seems to me that the one thing that might be making young(er) people stay is moving back to pre-suburbs times, to pre-whiteflight situation. Once people can walk downtown Detroit and have shops, doctors, restaurants, gyms, theatres, schools and playgrounds at a walking (cycling :)) distance, they will want to stay. Hopefully.

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By: Jim Meredith http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-175 Jim Meredith Sun, 03 Jan 2010 18:06:24 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2010/01/02/who-understands-how-detroit-needs-to-change/#comment-175 Thanks for your post and challenge. It is clear that any discussion of Detroit has a tremendous amount of anxiety, frustration, and anger just beneath the surface. This city has continuously placed politics above place and people in a generations-long self-destructive movement. It is certainly time for a bold and courageous vision, and a recognition that the role of leadership is not to shrink our institutions and infrastructure to fit our depopulation, but instead to recognize that their real responsibility of leadership is to repopulate the city to fit the scale of its infrastructure and build the institutions to make it sustainable. While I do not agree with all of their recommendations, I did like this phrase from the authors of "A Plan for Detroit" published recently in The New Republic – "Detroit will have to become a different kind of city, one that challenges our idea of what a city is supposed to look like, and what happens within its boundaries." I expect this is your point. Whether defined by gray hairs or Gen Y, it is time to envision a different kind of city. Thanks for your post and challenge. It is clear that any discussion of Detroit has a tremendous amount of anxiety, frustration, and anger just beneath the surface.

This city has continuously placed politics above place and people in a generations-long self-destructive movement. It is certainly time for a bold and courageous vision, and a recognition that the role of leadership is not to shrink our institutions and infrastructure to fit our depopulation, but instead to recognize that their real responsibility of leadership is to repopulate the city to fit the scale of its infrastructure and build the institutions to make it sustainable.

While I do not agree with all of their recommendations, I did like this phrase from the authors of “A Plan for Detroit” published recently in The New Republic – “Detroit will have to become a different kind of city, one that challenges our idea of what a city is supposed to look like, and what happens within its boundaries.”

I expect this is your point. Whether defined by gray hairs or Gen Y, it is time to envision a different kind of city.

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