Comments on: The truth hurts… http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/ Rantings and photos of Metro Detroit in a post-industrial era. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:07:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Ted http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-188 Ted Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:11:09 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-188 The proportion of refugee/asylee seekers is miniscule in comparison with individuals who traversed the byzantine labyrinth of that is known as the US immigration system. Randy's perspective seems to be the de jure talking point that many anti-immigrant groups are pushing. Assuming, in arguendo, that the majority were refugees. Considering what it means to be a refugee as well as the fact that the U.S., since its inception, has been welcoming those from disaffected areas, I find it troubling to use this group as a convenient scapegoat. They most assuredly are not receiving any sort of free ride. This is a fantastic blog. Extremely well thought out and written. As others have stated, you do a great job in giving voice to the collective unconscious thoughts that many of us have towards Detroit. The proportion of refugee/asylee seekers is miniscule in comparison with individuals who traversed the byzantine labyrinth of that is known as the US immigration system. Randy’s perspective seems to be the de jure talking point that many anti-immigrant groups are pushing.

Assuming, in arguendo, that the majority were refugees. Considering what it means to be a refugee as well as the fact that the U.S., since its inception, has been welcoming those from disaffected areas, I find it troubling to use this group as a convenient scapegoat. They most assuredly are not receiving any sort of free ride.

This is a fantastic blog. Extremely well thought out and written. As others have stated, you do a great job in giving voice to the collective unconscious thoughts that many of us have towards Detroit.

]]> By: Randy http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-172 Randy Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:48:01 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-172 In This article, entitled The truth hurts… In your conclusion, you stated: "Immigrants could be the area’s future if we are open and inviting. It would actually be more truthful to say "Refugees" instead of "Immigrants" While some did actually "immigrate" the vast foreign dissent are actually "refugees" that are funded with Federal dollars. Good article. In This article, entitled The truth hurts…

In your conclusion, you stated: “Immigrants could be the area’s future if we are open and inviting.

It would actually be more truthful to say “Refugees” instead of “Immigrants” While some did actually “immigrate” the vast foreign dissent are actually “refugees” that are funded with Federal dollars.

Good article.

]]> By: admin http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-113 admin Wed, 20 May 2009 21:05:31 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-113 Thanks Outwest. I agree. I don't think Detroit has hit bottom yet. It's got a long way to go... Thanks Outwest. I agree. I don’t think Detroit has hit bottom yet. It’s got a long way to go…

]]> By: outwest http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-112 outwest Wed, 20 May 2009 15:16:13 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-112 I have no disagreements with your postings or positions on this site; instead, I feel you're stating a view that's always been in the collective subconscious but all too easily dismissed because of its complexity and the reluctance to accept the reality of a dying American city. You've done a great service by providing a voice and images to illustrate the ongoing crisis. I'm amazed when I contrast the Detroit in the stories of my parents and grandparents with the present situation. In less than two generations so much has changed. My family left to pursue occupations outside of factory work and wound up on the other side of the state. Here the economic outlook is also quite uncertain, yet to many I know, Detroit seems like an uninhabitable post-war area littered with minefields and toxic residue. I would like to say I have hope, but I feel that these are the early years of another era of wholesale abandonment and demolition, worse than those that came before. I have no disagreements with your postings or positions on this site; instead, I feel you’re stating a view that’s always been in the collective subconscious but all too easily dismissed because of its complexity and the reluctance to accept the reality of a dying American city. You’ve done a great service by providing a voice and images to illustrate the ongoing crisis.

I’m amazed when I contrast the Detroit in the stories of my parents and grandparents with the present situation. In less than two generations so much has changed. My family left to pursue occupations outside of factory work and wound up on the other side of the state. Here the economic outlook is also quite uncertain, yet to many I know, Detroit seems like an uninhabitable post-war area littered with minefields and toxic residue. I would like to say I have hope, but I feel that these are the early years of another era of wholesale abandonment and demolition, worse than those that came before.

]]> By: admin http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-110 admin Tue, 19 May 2009 01:03:46 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-110 Thanks. Yeah, unfortunately, I'm sure Detroit's not the first, last, or only area to see a major "brain drain" occur. I'm sure it's been going on for a long, long time. It's just very pronounced when it occurs in an area that was, at one time, a national, if not world, leader. For Detroit it was a long slow decline, with a precipitous drop off a cliff in the last few years. The easy way out is definitely to just leave it behind as many are doing. I have done it as well, but would like to find a way to get back there and make a difference. Thanks. Yeah, unfortunately, I’m sure Detroit’s not the first, last, or only area to see a major “brain drain” occur. I’m sure it’s been going on for a long, long time. It’s just very pronounced when it occurs in an area that was, at one time, a national, if not world, leader. For Detroit it was a long slow decline, with a precipitous drop off a cliff in the last few years.

The easy way out is definitely to just leave it behind as many are doing. I have done it as well, but would like to find a way to get back there and make a difference.

]]> By: Mauro Thon Giudici http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-109 Mauro Thon Giudici Mon, 18 May 2009 22:16:28 +0000 http://www.themotorlesscity.com/2009/05/18/the-truth-hurts/#comment-109 Oh well not exactly from Detroit :-D but I really appreciate your work. I Agree with you that intellectual impoverishment in an area is one of the worse things that could happen, things at that point could only get worse. I'm experiencing the same in area of traditional intellectual emigration. There it seems that there is no way back. Unfortunately it requires a lot of emotional investment do do something different than migrate. Oh well not exactly from Detroit :-D but I really appreciate your work. I Agree with you that intellectual impoverishment in an area is one of the worse things that could happen, things at that point could only get worse. I’m experiencing the same in area of traditional intellectual emigration. There it seems that there is no way back. Unfortunately it requires a lot of emotional investment do do something different than migrate.

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